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Em Schulz: Welcome to July.
Christine Schiefer: It's a sad day.
Em Schulz: Is it? Oh, well, it is sad... Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Our month is over. We're in mourning. Umm, I wish we weren't on YouTube 'cause I would say we're both wearing black, but only Em got the memo today.
Em Schulz: Yeah, I started my funeral early. Umm, really once [laughter], and there's a reason for that. Umm, June 30th in my family is an unlucky day, so.
Christine Schiefer: [gasp] Why? Ooh, I didn't know that. Tell me more.
Em Schulz: The family curse. Uh...
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: So we... I don't know, my mom just always told me, "Oh, June 30th is the bad day. June 30th is a bad day."
Christine Schiefer: Well, the more you say that, the more it probably makes it true too. Which is just great.
[chuckle]
Em Schulz: So I don't know if there were multiple family tragedies on June 30th, but I do know my great grandpa died on June 30th. Umm, and I never, I never met him. He died actually when my, my grandpa was like 10 years old.
Christine Schiefer: Oh.
Em Schulz: So I never even had a chance at meeting him. But because of that, my grandpa always hated June 30th, obviously.
Christine Schiefer: Aww.
Em Schulz: And so he always just said like, "Oh, don't ever do anything on June 30th. It's like a, a curse day. It's an unlucky day" And so then...
Christine Schiefer: Oh boy, and now it's just created this cycle.
Em Schulz: It's... Yeah, it's spread throughout the family. Well...
Christine Schiefer: It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Em Schulz: Well, it, nothing to me has ever happened on June 30th, but I...
Christine Schiefer: But I say it fucking would, hello. We're not there yet.
Em Schulz: I do celebrate though because...
Christine Schiefer: Can you imagine though...
Em Schulz: Apparently it's a family tradition.
Christine Schiefer: This comes out, this is scheduled to come out the day after. So can you imagine like...
Em Schulz: Oh.
Christine Schiefer: We're, we're like, "Ha ha ha," and this comes out and everyone's like, "Oh no."
Em Schulz: Ooh. Actually, yeah, that does terrify me.
Christine Schiefer: If something happened to us yesterday folks, umm, don't blame us. It was June 30th, so I don't know if, if...
Em Schulz: It just happens, you know.
Christine Schiefer: If we get canceled it's just 'cause it's an unlucky day.
Em Schulz: You know what I like to think too? I know it's not technically like Gemini season's over. I know we... I... Or is it?
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: No, it is over already. Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Oh yeah.
Em Schulz: But, umm, uh, yeah, June 30th for some other reasons, got some bad stuff to it and my mom actually like had to sit with herself on it because she ended up getting married to my stepdad on June 30th.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, that's right. I did know that. I was gonna say, "I feel like I've heard this kind of fun fact about you," but it's because you told me about their wedding and I was like...
Em Schulz: If...
Christine Schiefer: "What a mysterious choice she's made to get married...
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: On her unlucky day."
Em Schulz: The family was like, "Are you sure? Are you sure...
Christine Schiefer: Ohh.
Em Schulz: You wanna do this?" How bad could it go? If so, could he leave you?
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Christine Schiefer: Okay. They're still together.
Em Schulz: They're actually together.
Christine Schiefer: They're still together.
Em Schulz: Actually, I think...
Christine Schiefer: The wedding was fun and great.
Em Schulz: Not, umm, marriage, but dating. I think this is 10 years for them, so.
Christine Schiefer: Congrats. Did you know this is Blaise and my ten year as well?
Em Schulz: Oh wow.
Christine Schiefer: This month. Yeah.
Em Schulz: You and my mom have something special in common.
Christine Schiefer: That's right.
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Christine Schiefer: Umm, but I'm not gonna reach out to her on June 30th to wish her. I just don't wanna get involved, you know what I mean?
Em Schulz: That's fair. Yeah. You might wanna...
Christine Schiefer: I'll reach out the day after just in case.
[chuckle]
Em Schulz: Which is today, happy July everybody.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, we made it, I hope...
[laughter]
Em Schulz: Do you have any plans in July you're looking forward to?
Christine Schiefer: Umm, we got some Beach Too Sandy tours baby.
Em Schulz: I know.
Christine Schiefer: If know you haven't checked it out, come see us guys. We really, we have a couple East Coast shows coming up, umm, this month and I'm so excited. I think like, now that we're recording this, I finally have done a couple of these shows and it is just like so much fricking fun and it's like, I don't know, it's just been like really chill and fun.
Em Schulz: Well, uh, so I know you've got a DC show right around the time I'm supposed to head home, so if...
Christine Schiefer: [gasp] Are you gonna go? I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna pee my pants.
Em Schulz: Out of fear?
Christine Schiefer: No, out of excitement.
Em Schulz: Oh, okay. Then yeah, then yes. If it was outta fear, then no.
Christine Schiefer: [gasp] Oh my God. Wait, I'm so happy. Are you serious?
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Oh my God, you just made my whole day.
Em Schulz: That's bananas. We have such different responses.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: I know that.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: If you told me you were coming to anything, I'd be like, "Oh my God."
Christine Schiefer: I know.
Em Schulz: "I think I'm just gonna have to cancel the whole show."
Christine Schiefer: That's very, uh, very mighty kind as my mother would say. Umm...
Em Schulz: Well, I was looking at the dates and I just, I, I couldn't swing any of them and then I felt really bad, but I saw a DC one and I planned on going to the East Coast anyway...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: So I'm just gonna use your show as...
Christine Schiefer: I didn't think about it. I didn't even wanna pressure you.
Em Schulz: I'm just gonna use it as a reason to go, so.
Christine Schiefer: Oh my God, I'm so thrilled. Like, you have no idea. Oh, you just made my whole July. Okay. So that makes me happy. Yay.
Em Schulz: Oh, good. Happy July.
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Em Schulz: I, I, I hope that, umm, July goes very well for you. Uh...
Christine Schiefer: You as well, Em. Are you gonna just be chilling, maxin', relaxing?
Em Schulz: Technically, I will be put in the same space for... I'll be, you know, not traveling as much.
Christine Schiefer: Right, right.
Em Schulz: So yes. But, umm, it's like a very busy month for me. I have the, my anniversary I've got, umm, a friend coming into town, or oh no, when this comes out, a friends already come into town and then I have another friend coming into town and then I'm going home because...
Christine Schiefer: To see family and friends.
Em Schulz: Right. To see family and friends. So, umm...
Christine Schiefer: And me.
Em Schulz: So I'm only traveling once, but it's like the long haul cross-country thing, so.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah, that's a big, and it's a big trip. It's not like a weekend, like you're gonna be gone for a few weeks. Right?
Em Schulz: Really indefinitely. I still don't know when I'll be coming back, but, umm, I will be recording from, uh, the whole...
Christine Schiefer: The homestead.
Em Schulz: The ole homestead, so.
[chuckle]
Em Schulz: Anyway. Okay, well, I hope everyone else has a happy July. If you are...
Christine Schiefer: I need you to should understand like you, I'm like, can't stop smiling. I'm so happy right now.
Em Schulz: I am so happy.
Christine Schiefer: You've just made me so happy.
[chuckle]
Em Schulz: Uh, you're giving me an ego boost by being so happy that I'll be near you. Umm...
Christine Schiefer: I'm so excited.
Em Schulz: No one's ever been so excited for me to be in a room with them. That's very lovely.
Christine Schiefer: And it's the same, uh, venue that you and I did like years ago when Linda took a limo to the show.
Em Schulz: Oh, I could do, you know, we could...
Christine Schiefer: You could do a repeat.
Em Schulz: I could carry that tradition if you'd like, and...
Christine Schiefer: I was just telling my brother because I, I was like, "Our DC show, umm, at this, at," I think it's DC Improv. Umm, Linda, we, we were in the green room, we knew Linda was coming. We didn't know the extent of her travel accommodations, AKA, the limo filled with booze and all her friends. Umm, so we were in the green room and the security guy opened the door and was like, "Listen, I'm so sorry to bother you. Umm, but there's a group of, of people who just came in holding solo cups and, you know, we don't allow outside alcohol. Is there a way you want me to handle this?" And Em goes like, looks at me and Eva and goes, "I'll handle this. Umm, sir, I think that's my mother, uh, that sounds pretty much on-brand for something she would do. So, uh, if you could just tell her to please get the solo cups out of here, umm, she can buy her own drinks." And he was like, "Oh, it's your family. Do you need us to make an exception?" You were like, "Nope. Just tell her to get those solo cups outta here."
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Em Schulz: What a nice version of that story 'cause I remember...
Christine Schiefer: I know.
Em Schulz: Crying backstage, but...
Christine Schiefer: I-I Know it was very, very stressful, overwhelming for you, so.
Em Schulz: I, I will say that was the... That was the show where Deirdre was our security in a Juicy...
Christine Schiefer: Oh my God.
Em Schulz: Valor jumpsuit.
Christine Schiefer: That's right.
Em Schulz: So if you need me to bring pregnant Deirdre...
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Christine Schiefer: She is cool mom. Yeah. Pregnant, cool Mom. Deirdre, come on.
Em Schulz: This time. She is a cool mom. So.
Christine Schiefer: Those hormones... Yes, she is. Literally, and those hormones will be on our side, you know, just like defending us.
Em Schulz: Yeah. So, Umm, if you need me to bring additional security, I can do that.
Christine Schiefer: Please, please bring her if, if she wants to come only, of course but...
Em Schulz: I can also bring open containers of alcohol and then tell them I'm with the talent. So they have to let me do it. Umm...
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Christine Schiefer: And then I can pretend I don't know you. It'll be so fun.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: Yeah, it'll be just like last time. Umm, so.
Christine Schiefer: Just like old days.
Em Schulz: Umm, ooh. So anyway, I hope everyone has less chaotic of a summer, uh, July as we do. I hope you're...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Getting some good R&R.
Christine Schiefer: Just rest, rest it up.
Em Schulz: Just chillaxin guys and...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: And, Umm, and other than that we've... Just to kick it off for you, we have some good stories. So...
Christine Schiefer: Yes. And uh, Eva said Em goes first this time, which is exciting.
Em Schulz: I don't think I've gone first for a while. Maybe...
Christine Schiefer: It's been a while.
Em Schulz: Maybe it's been literally since the last time we did this but.
Christine Schiefer: It might be two months, but it still feels like it's been a while. Umm, and so you go... Sorry, my microphone keeps falling and I feel like it every time I move it makes like a farting...
Em Schulz: *Singing* I keep on falling in love.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, my microphone can sing.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Beautifully, by the way. Umm...
Em Schulz: [gasp].
Christine Schiefer: Umm, sorry. It keeps falling and it makes like a farting sound when I fix it, so I apologize.
Em Schulz: That's me.
Christine Schiefer: Oh yeah. That's Em throwing you under the bus. Anyway, so you go first and Eva said it's like a, a Summer smorgasbord, which is, it's delightful. Delightful.
Em Schulz: What a way to describe it. Yeah, I wish I had a summer Smorgasburg right in front of me too.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah, I as well. I as well.
Em Schulz: Okay, so this... Oh, I already love it because we have a double pronoun writing in today.
Christine Schiefer: Hey.
Em Schulz: This is Nicky who uses she/they pronouns. Thank you for normalizing pronouns and Nicky's title to the email is Psychic Dream University of Toronto Love Story.
Christine Schiefer: [gasp] What!
Em Schulz: Wow.
Christine Schiefer: All those, all those words are overwhelming to me.
Em Schulz: I know. Well, so I did just cover the ghosts of University of Toronto, so.
Christine Schiefer: All right.
Em Schulz: I wonder if that has anything to do with this.
Christine Schiefer: Yes. Right.
Em Schulz: Umm, okay. "Hi everyone, long time listener and second time writer. I heard Em's story about the ghosts of UT and realized that I also have a paranormal psychic story about the school."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp].
Em Schulz: "This is a bit of a long one and requires some context though, so hopefully it's worth it. About nine years ago when I was 17, I started a minimum wage summer job as a ride attendant at a Cedar Fair owned amusement park called Canada's Wonderland." Wow, I wish I was there.
Christine Schiefer: Oh my. Haven't we read? Oh, I think maybe Xandy and I have read reviews of that place. It sounds really...
Em Schulz: Did you?
Christine Schiefer: I think so. It sounds really familiar.
Em Schulz: How were the reviews? Because I sure want to go.
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Christine Schiefer: I think it was a review where a guy, Umm, like lost his kid and then I don't...
Em Schulz: Ooh.
Christine Schiefer: It it was not sad. It was like funny, like I, I...
Em Schulz: Oh [chuckle]
Christine Schiefer: It's, it's hard to explain, but he was just very angry. Umm, so, but I'm sure that wouldn't happen to you, so don't worry.
Em Schulz: All right.
Christine Schiefer: You can probably have a great time.
Em Schulz: As long as I'm not like with Leona. I think I certainly can avoid the losing a kid.
Christine Schiefer: [laughter] Yeah.
Em Schulz: "Umm, I started a minimum wage summer job at Canada's Wonderland about an hour and a half north of Toronto. There I worked at, as a roller coaster." I can't read today. I'm so sorry.
Christine Schiefer: "I worked as a roller coaster." Good. Congratulations.
Em Schulz: I have two pronouns and I identify as a roller coaster. I'm kidding.
Christine Schiefer: I mean, listen...
Em Schulz: I'm kidding, God.
Christine Schiefer: What's next? People are gonna start like identifying as roller coasters. Is that what we want in society?
[laughter]
Em Schulz: Oh, now that it's July 1st, I do guess pride month is over, so I don't get to make the same jokes. Umm...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah, we get to just mock everyone relentlessly.
Em Schulz: I know. Now everyone's back to mocking me. Uh, "There, I worked at a roller coaster called Vortex and met one of my co-workers, Beatrice. She was a year older, way cooler than me and a million times better at her job than I was. And within a couple weeks I had the biggest crush on her."
Christine Schiefer: Oh-la-la.
Em Schulz: "For the rest of the summer. We spent a lot of time and got pretty close. Uh, but I was very aware of the fact that I could never confess my feelings because she didn't reciprocate. And we were both going our separate ways in the fall for school. Uh, I was going to a school in Toronto called Ryerson University, and she was going to move back to her dorm on the other side of the country at... "
Christine Schiefer: Ooh.
Em Schulz: "University of BC."
Christine Schiefer: No.
Em Schulz: I really, you know, there is something to be said about an a, a summer love and I think...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: A, an amusement park. Summer Love.
Christine Schiefer: Summer loving. Sorry, my microphone's singing again. [chuckle] Turn me a blast...
Em Schulz: She...
Christine Schiefer: I'm a roller coaster.
Em Schulz: She really said it's singing time.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: She said, I'm the karaoke girl here.
Christine Schiefer: I'm so sorry.
Em Schulz: Uh, there is something about a summer love, especially the, the theme of an amusement park. Summer love just feels so perfect.
Christine Schiefer: It does, it feels timeless almost like it could go all the way back to like Coney Island.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: But like still works today. It's beautiful.
Em Schulz: "But after some heartfelt goodbyes and several months into the school year, I had this dream."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: "I was never one to believe in ghosts, the paranormal psychics, et cetera. But one night I dreamt that I went over to UT, which is about 20 minutes away, and was sitting in a lecture hall room 252 and saw Beatrice two rows down from me. I had never been to UT before. Definitely hadn't snuck into a lecture hall before and didn't even know if a room 252 ever existed."
Christine Schiefer: Mm-hmm.
Em Schulz: "But I felt some sort of psychic pull to it. So in the morning I blew off my lecture and snuck into the University with a friend of mine. We discovered that room 252 did in fact exist. And I looked and it looked just like it did in my dream."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: We sat at the back of the lecture hall as to not draw any attention to ourselves. And two rows down there she was."
Christine Schiefer: Noo.
Em Schulz: "I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me or something. But it turned out that Beatrice had transferred schools partway through the semester because..."
Christine Schiefer: What?
Em Schulz: "She wanted to be closer to home. She, she saw me and I, I used being a photography major as an excuse to ask her to model some pictures."
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Oh, you are smooth all of a sudden.
Em Schulz: That that's why the kids are calling the rizz, I think.
Christine Schiefer: Oh my.
Em Schulz: Uh, "and the rest was history. I asked her to marry me at the roller coaster we worked at."
Christine Schiefer: Shut the fuck Up. Are you serious right now?
Em Schulz: "And we're planning on getting married in the Fall. And I told her about the dream about a year ago and... About a year into our relationship. And even her sciencey engineer brain can't explain it, but we're both glad I skipped my lecture that day and glad she went to hers."
Christine Schiefer: Was she wondering though, like why you were at a University of Toronto lecture hall? Like since you weren't at, a student there?
Em Schulz: Probably. It sounds like Nicky is cool with a little white lie.
Christine Schiefer: Alright. Can I just kind of be like, "Oh no, this is for my photography project. Did I mention I'm a photographer? I am seeking a model yeah".
Em Schulz: "By the way, here's my camera right now. And you should take some pictures, but also not on campus because I don't actually go here".
Christine Schiefer: And Right. I'm, I'm actually being escorted off the property. Um and also, I forget. Oh, right, she was saying that, uh, they're, they're a, that she's a, engineering, right?
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: So I'm like, you're like, I'm a photography major in this engineering lecture for.
Em Schulz: It's like...
Christine Schiefer: I promise I have a good reason.
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Em Schulz: It's like, of all the classes to like slip into. You have...
Christine Schiefer: To accidentally be.
Em Schulz: There's very little overlap there for you to...
Christine Schiefer: That's what I thought.
Em Schulz: Huh. Well, thank you Nicky, for that story. Do you...
Christine Schiefer: What am, what a mystery.
Em Schulz: Do you have any stories like that where you have a pull, like to something and you don't know why, but it ends up leading into something great.
Christine Schiefer: Mm-hmm. Like a pull, like to a physical place?
Em Schulz: Mm-hmm.
Christine Schiefer: Hmm. That's a great question. Do you? Oh well I think...
Em Schulz: I do.
Christine Schiefer: Ooh, what is it?
Em Schulz: And what's interesting is I also remember the room number.
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: Because it was, and it was so theirs was two, hers was 252, mine was 257.
Christine Schiefer: No, it wasn't.
Em Schulz: Isn't that the craziest?
Christine Schiefer: What, what do you mean? What is it?
Em Schulz: It was the first day of college, and I had some sort of feeling, uh, where I was looking at my... I couldn't tell if I was in the right class or not... Or no, it wasn't even class, it was orientation where like you had to go somewhere for.
Christine Schiefer: Right.
Em Schulz: They were just gonna teach you about like, "You got into college and now this is what you're gonna learn when you get here".
Christine Schiefer: Sure.
Em Schulz: And I was supposed to go into a different room. They assigned me a different, like they broke us up into chunks. So we would... There enough of us would be in the same room And if anyone's from CNU, it was McMurran 257. But I wasn't supposed to be in that room. I was supposed to be in a different chunk of people. But I remember looking at that room and I remember seeing 257 and it, and even remembering in that moment, "Remember the number to this room,"
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: "Because this room is gonna be what changes your life". And I was like, "What?"
Christine Schiefer: What the F?
Em Schulz: And I remember feeling like. I had just such a weird gut feeling about it. And I knew somehow it was gonna be like the long game. Like I was gonna meet someone there who was going...
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: To kind of just take, take me on the right course. And I ended up sitting next to my very first girlfriend.
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: And because, just the way that the Butterfly effect works, it's not like she changed my life. Sorry. If you're listening, you do not totally. It, I in a nice way. There's more to it on, on top of that. But by being with her butterfly effect led me to my next girlfriend, which led me to my next girlfriend, which led me to moving to Los Angeles, which led me to meeting you, by the way, which led to this.
Christine Schiefer: You know, I thought, oh okay, I see, yeah.
Em Schulz: So I just, and I know that could just be like, yeah, that's how just the course of time goes.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: But I remember just thinking like, like I know if I hadn't met her.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Absolutely, I would, things would've not gone the way that they did.
Christine Schiefer: Right.
Em Schulz: There's just, the only way everything else would've happened is if, like, I had the Canon event of like meeting that one person and I wouldn't have if I didn't go into that room.
Christine Schiefer: Wow.
Em Schulz: And I know it's kind of like hippy dippy and a million people probably Nicky's partner who's in engineering could be like, "That's so stupid". But I remember...
Christine Schiefer: No, but also they did get married, so if you had married that person, it would be a better story because you could be like, "And then I met my future partner... My future spouse," you know?
Em Schulz: That's true. But uh, you know, it's, it was just, I remember thinking like, this is gonna put me on the trajectory I'm supposed to be on.
Christine Schiefer: And I, I love that. I always vote listen to that feeling.
Em Schulz: Yeah. It was just a, even if it didn't lead to anything, I, I would still remember. Wow, that was a weird thing to think about. I have to remember this room.
Christine Schiefer: I love that the room was so close to this one too. That's weird.
Em Schulz: What about you? Do you ever have any, just any gut feeling where it ended up working out?
Christine Schiefer: Yeah, I often have gut feelings. I actually like, I feel like I regularly, if I have like two options, I just try to go with my gut every time. And I feel very, very content and happy where, with where life is. So I, I like to think that those all those little gut feelings kind of bring you in the right direction. Um. I think...
Em Schulz: I also like, you know, what I like about us too is that we've always had the same gut feelings about our own stuff.
Christine Schiefer: We do.
Em Schulz: And it's always been right.
Christine Schiefer: And we trust... And we trust each other's, which I love. Like if one of us says like, I have a feeling about, this, we don't, we just say, okay.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: We...
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Are on the same page then. Which I love.
Em Schulz: There are times, there are times we've gone, well then that's what we're doing. Or, okay, I'll stay the fuck away from that too. [laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Cancel. Right, exactly. Like we, we have had moments where even I was like so embarrassed, but I was like, I can't... I don't wanna do this. I don't wanna go to this place that we're supposed to go to...
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: I have like, just a bad, bad feeling. And then Eva chimed in and said, you know, I also don't have a good feeling. So it was kind of... It's... You know, it happens, even in times where it's inconvenient [laughter], but...
Em Schulz: I think there's something really special about having gut feelings that you can trust, but then to meet someone else whose gut feelings are aligned with yours.
Christine Schiefer: Match up.
Em Schulz: Is crazy because...
Christine Schiefer: That's so true.
Em Schulz: I never have to explain anything to you.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Which is one of my favorite things about our friendship is like, we just... Our gut feelings ride or die with each other.
Christine Schiefer: That's so true. I don't think about that enough. But yeah, that's, that's, that's huge, and I think that that's served us pretty well, so.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: I, I agree.
Em Schulz: Well, thank you Nicky, for your story and the tangents that ensued.
Christine Schiefer: Sorry we made it about ourselves as usual. Umm...
Em Schulz: Yeah. Well. Yeah well.
Christine Schiefer: How sorry, are we, I said sorry, what am I? Canadian.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: Nicky?
Christine Schiefer: Uh, how, sorry, Are we really?
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: I'm a rollercoaster. What can I say? So this is... Oh boy. Sorry. This is from Diego, he/him, and it's called Aliens in the South. Oh, I'm excited.
Em Schulz: Ooh. Oh, that's why Eva wanted me to read the other story.
Christine Schiefer: It makes a lot sense. Well, first you got Canada, right?
Em Schulz: Uh-huh, yeah. That's a good point.
Christine Schiefer: And now the aliens. Umm, okay. "Hello y'all. I just wanted to start off by saying that I love you both. You guys make the days go by faster and I always look forward to your episodes. I work in IT and when it's slow, I love listening to you both while I'm at the desk. Anyway, enough about you guys. Now it's my story." [laughter] Finally.
Em Schulz: Diego knew we would talk forever before we got to his story.
Christine Schiefer: He's like. He probably had a gut feeling his was next and we were just delaying it.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Umm, he does say, just kidding. So we'll forgive you. [laughter] "I live in Texas around the southern Point, and at the time I lived with my parents in their farmhouse. We lived on about 7 acres of land and we're located somewhat on the outskirts of the city. Not in the middle of nowhere, but kind of in the quiet part of the town. It was giving very much little house on the prairie."
Em Schulz: Ooh.
Christine Schiefer: "Like there is a Walmart and HEB around the street, but we lived behind all that, if that makes sense." So you get like best of both worlds.
Em Schulz: Mm-hmm.
Christine Schiefer: So like little house and a prairie, but like, oh shit, I'm out of, I need 45 eggs. Oh, well Walmart's right down the street. Perfect.
Em Schulz: Mm-hmm. That's perfect.
Christine Schiefer: Umm, moving on, "My boyfriend would come over pretty much every day and would leave around 12:00 AM each night to head back to his house since we both had college classes the next day. One night in 2020, just like every night he said his goodbyes and took off from my driveway and started his drive back to his house. No more than 5 minutes later he called me in a panic saying that there was what appeared to be a UFO hovering above the street he was driving on."
Em Schulz: Why?
Christine Schiefer: What the F? I love how he's like, "I'm gonna call my boyfriend."
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: I feel like I would call like the National Guard.
Em Schulz: Who would you call?
Christine Schiefer: I don't know [laughter] I don't... 911. I have no idea. I have...
Em Schulz: The Air Force.
Christine Schiefer: Actually I had probably call you or Blaise like, so I guess that's a fair point. Like, I think in a panic I would just call you or Blaise.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Umm, to... Or maybe my mom. I don't know. I think in fear I just usually call my mom.
Em Schulz: Or Atleast in an alien situation, I feel like you only wanna call someone who's gonna believe you. 'Cause if you call anyone...
Christine Schiefer: True.
Em Schulz: With any authority, I feel like they just be like, no, you didn't, click.
Christine Schiefer: Exactly. Like, what are they gonna do? Really? Yeah. And then the men in black are gonna show up at your house. Like, I don't have time for that, you know.
Em Schulz: Yeah. It's too messy.
Christine Schiefer: Too messy, exactly. "To give a little backstory, we are both entertained by the idea of the paranormal and cryptids, but we understand that most of these tales are just lore, but nonetheless, we like to keep a positive mindset while also being somewhat realistic. That being said, when he called saying there was a UFO hovering in the sky, it took me a minute to make sense of what he was saying. As we were on the phone, he then proceeded to FaceTime me to show me what he was seeing while also saying that I needed to step outside since it was close to my house," I'd be like, fuck no [laughter] You record it for me and I'll watch it later.
Em Schulz: Their, their gut feelings are not aligned. I don't know.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. [laughter], that's so true. Oh, that's so true. "As I step outside..." Or maybe they are, because it sounds like he was fucking thrilled to walk outside underneath the UFO. "As I step outside, I look out into the sky and in the distance, sure enough is this huge triangle shaped craft with some lights slowly hovering away." That's fucking terrifying.
Em Schulz: Eugh.
Christine Schiefer: "From my point of view. It was slowly hovering away from my house, but from my boyfriend's point of view, it was just slowly flying down the street. It was not super high in the sky either. Just about four telephone poles high."
Em Schulz: Mmh.
Christine Schiefer: "As we FaceTimed, you can see the craft slowly over this busy street having its flashing lights just flickering." I hope somebody screen recorded this.
Em Schulz: Right.
Christine Schiefer: You guys gotta screen record it. "Cars on the same road as my boyfriend started to pull over. I love that validation and start to record this craft as it's just hovering, taking its time to fly in one direction. The weird part..." Ooh, I just got goosecam. "The weird part was that there was no noise coming from the craft. Just total silence."
Em Schulz: That... That seems to be how it goes, and I hate it every time.
Christine Schiefer: I've heard... I've heard that and it's so unsettling.
Em Schulz: Like... Like defies our planet's...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Whatever. Like, whatever.
Christine Schiefer: Like physics or.
Em Schulz: Yeah. It's doing something where their technology is stealth mode every time.
Christine Schiefer: It's so creepy. Especially when the thing is like right over you.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Eugh.
Em Schulz: Like I, I can't... We can't get through a recording without an airplane flying over us.
Christine Schiefer: Exactly.
Em Schulz: But these people can just do it so quiet.
Christine Schiefer: Can like fly a football field above someone's house and make no noise. "We thought maybe a drone or some type of military aircraft, but where we live, it would make no sense to have either of those objects in the air. Like why would there be military aircraft in the neighborhood."
Em Schulz: Mm-mmh.
Christine Schiefer: "As my boyfriend and other onlookers are stunned to see this huge craft fly in the air without any warning, it just stops and then starts to hover faster away now in an upward direction into the sky." I've heard that too, that it just stops and like shoots off.
Em Schulz: Yeah. And that's... I... Again, I'm not saying anything nobody... That... I'm not saying anything that we don't know right now, but there's something about like, again, defying physics.
Christine Schiefer: Yes.
Em Schulz: Where like, you don't even need a launch off you just go.
Christine Schiefer: Like the tic-tac where it just kind of like went in directions that like physically were not able to manufacture... Like, ooh.
Em Schulz: Eugh. Yeah, exactly.
Christine Schiefer: "No, more than a few minutes later it went into the dark skies without a trace. It was super weird. Until this day we still talk about it. My..." Oh wait, does that mean you're still together? Aaw.
Em Schulz: Aaw.
Em Schulz: "My boyfriend got the firsthand experience and still mentions how quiet it was. Quiet it was, even though it was so close to the ground. He also mentioned how, in a weird way he could feel as if there were things watching from the craft." I feel like for every way that they're able to cloak themselves, there's always the sense that they, they can see you. Like...
Em Schulz: I feel the same way. And it feels, it, it feels like that has to be intentional like.
Christine Schiefer: That... I guess that's true. If it's intentional, that makes more sense.
Em Schulz: Like, I can't, I can't sense your plane. I can't hear it.
Christine Schiefer: Right.
Em Schulz: But I can feel your stupid eyes.
Christine Schiefer: Your little... Dumb little eyes be watching me.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Ooh.
Em Schulz: That's, that's like a threat tack or, tactic.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Of like, I could cloak everything if I wanted to, but you're gonna know that I'm gonna know that I'm thinking of you.
Christine Schiefer: But I can see you. Yeah. "He also mentioned how, in a weird way, he could feel as if there were things watching from the craft. Almost like watching from above. If you are interested, I do have a video of the craft..." Come on. Where is it?
Em Schulz: Why didn't we start with that?
Christine Schiefer: Is it not attached here? Okay. Eva, is it attached? I'm gonna scream.
Em Schulz: If you are interested.
Christine Schiefer: If you're interested.
Em Schulz: Yeah, we are. Are... Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Christine Schiefer: "I do have a video of the craft. Since I knew no one would believe what we saw. I began to screen record the FaceTime call."
Em Schulz: Excellent.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, come on. I knew it. Yeah. Listen, I knew Diego and I had the same feelings about this. Okay. Uh, I'm so glad you were smart enough to screen record. "So I began to screen record the FaceTime call as proof. I hope you both end up reading this and shout out to Eva." who by the way, is now harassing you for that video.
Em Schulz: Yeah. Probably so. Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Yes. Goodbye.
Em Schulz: Man, Okay. Well, Diego, Umm, I am glad to not be you. Let's be clear. Umm...
Christine Schiefer: I'm glad to know you and not be you. Yep.
Em Schulz: I'm glad to hear it secondhand.
Christine Schiefer: Mm-hmm.
Em Schulz: Umm...
Christine Schiefer: Mm-hmm.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: But I do hope you're okay. And I hope you haven't felt anything staring at you.
Christine Schiefer: Me too.
Em Schulz: I would be so paranoid... You know what's wild? Because a lot of times at night... Not so much these days, I think I'm in like a less active place than the one I grew up in. But so many times in my life I grew up with that ghost in my room feeling like something was staring at me. Like it's face, like our noses...
Christine Schiefer: Right, yup.
Em Schulz: Were touching.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: The second I see a UFO that I never think about a ghost again. If I feel like something's staring at me, I'm always paranoid.
Christine Schiefer: Alien.
Em Schulz: It's the craft coming back.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. Great point. Like they're watching, especially if it already gave you that feeling when you just saw the craft. Like I feel like any time.
Em Schulz: Ugh.
Christine Schiefer: From then on, you'd just assume they were back.
Em Schulz: And even if you were just like having like a day of anxiety and you're like, "I feel like someone's looking at me." I would be... I would just now...
Christine Schiefer: Oh.
Em Schulz: Officially always assume.
Christine Schiefer: It's like every time you get that kind of hair on the back of your neck, like that tingle, you'd be like, "Oh no, are they coming back for me?" I would live the rest of my life paranoid, yeah.
Em Schulz: It's one of those things...
Christine Schiefer: Sorry, Diego. I didn't mean to make you feel that way, but I guess more... Maybe if it were more like a one-on-one experience with an alien, I would be convinced.
Em Schulz: Yeah. It's one of those things where I think, it, uh, you don't realize how insidious the trauma's about to be. And then...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. Until all of a sudden Eva and Christine explain it to you, Diego, and then you're like, "Wait a second."
Em Schulz: I hope up until this moment you didn't have that kind of fear.
Christine Schiefer: Me too.
Em Schulz: I also hope we didn't just give you a new fear.
Christine Schiefer: Instill it in you. Yeah.
Em Schulz: Uh, okay. Well anyway, thank you for your story. The next one is from Nolan, He/Him. This is the first time I think we've ever had two He/Hims in a row.
Christine Schiefer: That... You're probably right, Em, that's a great point.
Em Schulz: We... Our demographics are not usually geared toward...
Christine Schiefer: They're shifting, shifting, shifting.
Em Schulz: The He/Hims.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: So this is very vague. Just says "Wicked Cryptid".
Christine Schiefer: Who?
Em Schulz: And...
Christine Schiefer: Boston?
Em Schulz: No, I don't know. It sounds like Kentucky's coming up or I don't know.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, okay. Okay. All right.
Em Schulz: You're neck of the woods. Uh, "I hope you're all doing well."
Christine Schiefer: Thank you.
Em Schulz: Thank you. "I have a story that is not my personal account, but one that has been told by my family my entire life, including my uncle, grandma, and great aunt I never met. My uncle knew I loved animals and cryptids even as a child. So he would frequently retell his experience whenever I asked,"
Christine Schiefer: Aww.
Em Schulz: "and this is what he would say, Our family hails from Kentucky and Southeastern Ohio."
Christine Schiefer: Yay, Oh.
Em Schulz: Uh, Oh, Southeastern Ohio.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Way out in the sticks, allegedly.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: "And at 19..."
Christine Schiefer: I was, I was about to say, I don't think I've ever been to that part of the state 'cause it's like so random and out there.
Em Schulz: That's like how there's Virginia and West Virginia, but Western Virginia...
Christine Schiefer: Oh, Is a different thing. Right.
Em Schulz: And nobody knows what's going on over there. It's the real skinny part.
Christine Schiefer: Just like kinda the out of... Right. It's like just out there. Yeah.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: It's kinda...
Em Schulz: We're just, we're just like whoever that is. You're basically your own state.
Christine Schiefer: Hope you're having fun over there.
Em Schulz: Yeah, yeah, yeah. "Our family hails from Kentucky in Southeastern Ohio and in the 1960s, my uncle and grandma went to visit an aunt that lived in Southeastern Ohio, deep in the woods in a bermed house, a house that was built into the side of a hill."
Christine Schiefer: Mm.
Em Schulz: I didn't know that was called the bermed house.
Christine Schiefer: I didn't either.
Em Schulz: "My uncle was young at the time, around 10 years old and decided to go hunting for squirrels to eat for dinner." So...
Christine Schiefer: Yum.
Em Schulz: That lets you know...
Christine Schiefer: That's very Kentucky. [laughter]
Em Schulz: Lets you know where they are. "He had been gone for several hours and decided to stop for a drink from a small creek in a hollow." Wow. It just keeps getting more Southern.
Christine Schiefer: I'm sorry, a holler? Is that what we're saying? [laughter]? I feel like we might as well lean into it, down by the holler.
Em Schulz: Well, it says, "in a hollow aka a small valley aka a holler."
Christine Schiefer: Okay, there we go. Okay. See, he's on it.
Em Schulz: So Kentucky's rubbing off on Christine is what I just learned.
Christine Schiefer: Clearly.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: "After taking a drink and resting for several minutes, he heard a noise from across the creek that drew his attention."
Christine Schiefer: Oh, no.
Em Schulz: "As he looked toward the noise, he saw a huge black form."
Christine Schiefer: Uh-oh.
Em Schulz: "He described it as being massive covered in thick black hair."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: "Standing on two legs and long arms. The thing my uncle would always emphasize is how massive the chest was, at least 4 or 5 feet wide."
Christine Schiefer: What the fuck?
Em Schulz: "My uncle never did estimate how tall the beastie," I almost said bestie [laughter] Uh.
Christine Schiefer: His new bestie.
Em Schulz: "My uncle never did estimate how tall the beastie was, because before he could get a look at the creature's face, my uncle bolted back towards the house hoping to find safety."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp].
Em Schulz: My uncle did not look back and he did not hear any footfalls behind him. And unfortunately the story does not end there.
Christine Schiefer: Oh. Unfortunately for him. Fortunately for us. There's more.
Em Schulz: That's the one. Yeah. Uh, "Later that night, after the sun went down, my uncle, grandma and great aunt had eaten dinner," uh, I assume no barbecue squirrel. Umm.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Yum.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: "And we settled in for the night. Everyone was abruptly awoken to the sound of something repeatedly slamming into the side of their house."
Christine Schiefer: Oh, no. Oh, no.
Em Schulz: And your first thought is it's an an intruder.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. I mean, mine would be, yeah, for sure.
Em Schulz: "Into the side of the house and then the roof."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: So something's now on the roof. "And then the front door all at the same time."
Christine Schiefer: Wait, what?
Em Schulz: Side of the house side.
Christine Schiefer: How long is this thing's arms? Yeah. Right.
Em Schulz: Hugging the berm. The chest being at least 4 to 5 feet wide. That's a very small guess. It's actually a gorilla... Like a big...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. It is just like...
Em Schulz: Old gorilla, Godzilla, King Kong. Umm, but yeah, so the side of the house, the roof and the door are all getting slammed into all at the same time. That is now like poltergeist-y.
Christine Schiefer: It does feel like, yeah.
Em Schulz: "Then began the howls and screams and growling that were coming from every direction." Oh, my God.
Christine Schiefer: Oh no. Oh no. Oh, so there's like a group of them, presumably.
Em Schulz: Or I don't know, maybe it's one of those like mountain cryptids where it's just like, it just screams and you don't know what direction it's coming from.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. They kind of like create the confusion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Em Schulz: "The situation continued to intensify, which inspired that my great aunt grabbed the double barrel shotgun and sat in a rocking chair facing the front door, just waiting for whatever may come." So scary, but so badass of your grandma.
Christine Schiefer: Also so Kentucky. I'll just like.
Em Schulz: Your great aunt.
Christine Schiefer: I'll just sit here and wait [laughter] with my shotgun.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: But you come to me.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: "At some point in the night, the activity died away and things became calm again. When my family exited the house the next morning, there was damage to the house and various things on the property, but worst of all, several of the..." I'm so sorry, "barn cats and dogs were dead and mutilated around the property."
Christine Schiefer: Oh, no. Oh, no.
Em Schulz: So whatever it was.
Christine Schiefer: Jesus.
Em Schulz: Certainly doesn't sound human.
Christine Schiefer: No. And it doesn't sound very nice.
Em Schulz: No. So like if, if you didn't have the house protecting you or your great aunt with a shotgun at the door.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: If it were doing that to small animals, I don't...
Christine Schiefer: Oh, that's horrific.
Em Schulz: "A lovely family story to pass on to child me. Right? Uh, My grandma would refuse to tell me this story except to say that it was one of the scariest moments of her life. And my uncle will always retell this consistent story to me."
Christine Schiefer: Whoa.
Em Schulz: "So I leave it up to you to make your own decision, but if you ask me, I think Bigfoot is real, I think twice before saying no. And I appreciate you all for everything you do and wish you many blessings and don't fuck with Bigfoot's pet squirrels."
[chuckle]
Christine Schiefer: Oh my God.
Em Schulz: That's... I mean, I don't even know what to say to that. It's one of those moments where like, you can talk about cryptids all day long and be like, oh, maybe they're real, maybe they're not. But like, something did damage to all sides of your house.
Christine Schiefer: Mm-hmm.
Em Schulz: And killed the barn animals? Like that's crazy. That...
Christine Schiefer: On the same day that you saw it.
Em Schulz: Yeah. Which also means to me that it's somewhat like intelligent that it followed you back.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah it must've known how to find you, but how come it didn't just break down the door? If it can like mutilate a dog, you know what I mean?
Em Schulz: Why didn't it just like flick a window and bust through?
Christine Schiefer: Right? I wonder, I wonder if maybe it was just trying to scare them, or.
Em Schulz: I mean, if you really, if it really didn't want you to mess with squirrels, which I don't know if that's the whole reason, but maybe it was like, well then I'll mess with your animals.
Christine Schiefer: With your pets.
Em Schulz: I have... Yeah. I don't know. I have no idea.
Christine Schiefer: Mmh. That's, uh, an uncomfortable story, especially being so close to me. I feel like I always think of Bigfoot as being up in the Pacific Northwest or like way out, you know? But, uh, that's only a couple of hours from me. I don't love it.
Em Schulz: Ugh. The plot twist is like maybe your uncle or great-aunt, they were like, they owed money to some big people and it was just actually a group of people, but they were like, no, no, no. It was Bigfoot.
Christine Schiefer: It was Bigfoot. You remember you saw that furry thing by the creek?
Em Schulz: Yeah.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Umm yeah I guess you were ten.
Em Schulz: No, I don't know what it is, but that all I know is that's creepy and I don't envy that experience. That sounds really really horrid.
Christine Schiefer: Oh great Umm, okay, so the next one I have is from A, she/her, and the subject is my... Oh no. "My dead patient follows me home."
Em Schulz: Bye.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, bye indeed. "And a government conspiracy." Oh my God.
Em Schulz: Ooh, okay.
Christine Schiefer: What a twist! Okay. "Hi, Em, Christine, Eva Gio, all petrified fruits and creepy cryptid connoisseurs. I'm a 23 year old nurse who wishes to go by A, I am team milkshake, although being violently lactose, intolerant, smiley face."
Em Schulz: Been there.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Yeah, you have, "I absolutely love your podcast and it's gotten me through lots of long night shifts in the hospital. I always feel that I've got great company when listening to y'all, I've been debating on writing this in for a while, but I thought maybe writing out what happened would help me process these situations I'm about to tell you. I have two stories and the first one is a long one, so I apologize in advance. Let's crack into it. For context, I've always had a connection to the spiritual realm my whole life. My mom has a gift of being able to hear and see spirits, and I can hear and feel spirits occasionally being able to see them. A few months ago I was taking care of a patient in their last days of life. I had taken care of the patient the day before and they had been expected to pass on the next shift. So I was surprised to come in the next day and see they were still there. When I got into the unit at the start of my shift, I stepped into the patient's room to tell the family I was there for them if they needed. And upon my initial assessment of the room, the spiritual vibe of the family was very uncomfortable."
Em Schulz: Mmh.
Christine Schiefer: "And the spiritual vibe of the patient felt really heavy with anger and resentment." Oh no.
Em Schulz: Ew. Oh, I don't like that.
Christine Schiefer: "I had been in the room for maybe 10 seconds before I noticed the red flashing on his heart monitor. The patient's heart had stopped and they died right then."
Em Schulz: [gasp] Eugh!
Christine Schiefer: What the fuck? "Their family looked at me with teary eyes and hugged me as they said," Oh no.
Em Schulz: What?
Christine Schiefer: Oh, no. Okay, I'm just gonna read it. "Their family looked at me with teary eyes and hugged me as they said, 'They waited for you. They must have wanted to thank you for all of your care,' but immediately I felt extremely uncomfortable." So basically died 10 seconds upon you walking into the room and they felt like they were waiting for you. [chuckle] Oh no.
Em Schulz: Ooh. You know what? I think in a moment of intense grief, maybe you're willing to believe anything.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. I get, yeah, that's fair. "Fast forward again, to me being home that night and telling my husband about what had happened, my husband is not spiritual at all and told me not to worry. What a man thing to say." [laughter]
Em Schulz: Yeah. Thanks so much.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Indeed. "Well, that night at about 3:00 AM my husband woke me up asking me to check under the bed or around our bedroom for one of our cats. We kicked them out at night because they are hellions. He told me that he had felt something run across the bed and then heard something fall off of our dresser."
Em Schulz: Eugh.
Christine Schiefer: "Long story short, there was no cat in the bedroom. I tried to rationalize it and force myself to drift back into sleep. About 10 minutes later, all of the items," oh my God, "on my bedside table, and our dresser slowly started falling off onto the floor one by one."
[laughter]
Em Schulz: [gasp] Oh, absolutely. I just would leave the home. And never return. Oh, my God. Oh my God.
Christine Schiefer: Oh my God. One by one is so bad. It's not like something bumped it they all fell. It's like intentionally.
Em Schulz: But like loving the theatrics of it like if...
Christine Schiefer: It's so dramatic.
Em Schulz: If you're gonna be a ghost, you're like, umm, we're not doing this without a little razzle dazzle. So.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: I wanna stretch this out as long as possible.
Em Schulz: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Oh my gosh, sorry. Umm, "I squeezed my eyes shut and flinched at hearing every item slowly hit the floor. I opened my eyes cautiously and directed my gaze to the corner of the room. A black misty figure that was about eight feet tall with freakishly long limbs at its side was staring at me." What the fuck?
Em Schulz: Oh my God.
Christine Schiefer: I immediately knew that it was the spirit of my patient who had died that day.
Em Schulz: Ugh. Wow.
Christine Schiefer: I... This is scaring me. "I felt the anger and resentment from the figure, and I had no reaction except to tell the figure that I was so sorry. The figure stayed there for a good four or five minutes." Okay. On minute two, I'd be like, I need to do something. I don't know what to do except stare at it.
Em Schulz: I would be like well, Yeah. I've already said my piece and you're still there. I'd be like, so it's been great.
Christine Schiefer: So anyway. Yeah, yeah.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: It's been lovely. I think it's time we head out. I think we're gonna...
Christine Schiefer: What's that Midwest, where they like, where they always joke like...
Em Schulz: I'm gonna let you go? I don't know.
Christine Schiefer: Like where they like slap their laps and they're like, well.
Em Schulz: Well...
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Well, whop, I'm outta here. "I felt the anger and resentment and I had no reaction except to tell the figure that I was so sorry. The figure stayed there for a good four or five minutes but ended up leaving. I've never had another experience like that and I hope I never do." And so that's the first story. But like, I'm like, why are they so mad at you? What did you do?
Em Schulz: Yeah. I wonder if, I don't know. I...
Christine Schiefer: Well, maybe because they're spiritually sensitive, like maybe because A is spiritually sensitive. The patient had the anger and resentment already, maybe toward their family or toward like unfinished business in life and like kind of latched onto you, like that that latched onto you, because you spiritually open and...
Em Schulz: Because Like it... Like it needed someone to recognize it? I mean, I wanna know.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: If that thing ever came back or was it just the...
Christine Schiefer: I too.
Em Schulz: The one night?
Christine Schiefer: Well It said that they never had another experience like that, so, yeah.
Em Schulz: Oh. But again, talk about like some insidious trauma, because every night officially I'd be like, it could happen again.
Christine Schiefer: Every time your hellion cat knock something over, I'd be like, oh my God.
Em Schulz: Especially like people like you and Eva where you're like, oh, if I ever hear a sound, I can blame it on my cat. It's like now...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. Now what?
Em Schulz: Now if it's my cat, I'm like, what the hell else is going on?
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Exactly. I blame it on the eight foot shadow figure.
Em Schulz: Eugh.
Christine Schiefer: I wonder if it's like his anger and resentment like manifested into a creature like that. You know what I mean?
Christine Schiefer: It's a lot of anger.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. Well.
Em Schulz: It's a lot. I don't know. I, maybe there was like a family thing. Like a family.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Something following the family. I have no idea.
Christine Schiefer: Oh yeah. Maybe it was attached to the person and then when they died it latched onto you.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: [gasp] May be it was...
Em Schulz: Like it didn't know where else to go, and it just attached to the next vulnerable person.
Christine Schiefer: Ooh. That's spooky to think about. Anyway, that story...
Em Schulz: Whatever you... Whatever you did to get rid of it, well done. Because it sounds like it never came back.
Christine Schiefer: It sounds like you had a very polite conversation and it was like, "Well, I guess I gotta go."
[laughter]
Em Schulz: I'd be like, "look, I'm loving the energy."
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: "But this is just like not gonna work for me."
Christine Schiefer: The timing is not ideal. The theatrics are great, but the rest.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Mm-mm.
Em Schulz: Yeah, exactly.
Christine Schiefer: Okay, so this one's shorter. It says, "My second story. So my husband is in the US Space Force. Parentheses. (Yes. It's a real thing.) For some background, my husband deals with some pretty serious and mysterious things that I don't understand and don't want to understand, quite frankly. So whenever we have serious conversations about things, we turn off all phones and electronics in the house." Ooh, I love this already. "You connect the dots there. Anyways, one day while he was at work, I was at home alone making some lunch and listening to [chuckle], And That's Why We Drink because what the hell else would I listen to when I'm home alone and emotionally vulnerable? LOL" in all caps, [laughter] "This particular day I was listening to the episode on the AATIP. What was that again? The aeronautical...
Em Schulz: Some...
Christine Schiefer: We just talked about it in a recent episode. Uh...
Em Schulz: It was...
Christine Schiefer: AATIP.
Em Schulz: I don't, I don't, I don't remember what it stands for, but I do know they were, uh, the...
Christine Schiefer: The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. There, there it is.
Em Schulz: Mm-hmm. And they were involved in the Tic-Tac. Uh.
Christine Schiefer: Yes.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. Right. "I was listening to the episode on," is that how, how do you say it? AA TIP? AATIP.
Em Schulz: Maybe. I-I just kept calling it the AATIP, but I'm not...
Christine Schiefer: Oh, okay. Okay.
Em Schulz: On The Space Force so that might be...
Christine Schiefer: For some reason I thought you had [chuckle], you're not Yeah. For some reason I thought you had a cool name for it, but I might, I was probably imagining that.
Em Schulz: AATIP makes sense. Sounds right. But I don't know.
Em Schulz: Umm, okay. "This particular day, I was listening to the episode on the advanced, you know, whatever protection. No."
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: But you know, you, you've heard it.
Em Schulz: Their, their thing.
Christine Schiefer: "The AATIP. I was about 20 minutes into Em explaining it when I started to feel really weird for a couple of seconds, but couldn't explain why."
Em Schulz: I'm so sorry.
Christine Schiefer: I mean, I know. I'm like, I'm glad this is Em's Fault, not mine. "Immediately after I got this feeling, my phone shut completely off along with all, oh my God. All of the other electronics in my house and my electricity turned off."
Em Schulz: What? I did that Wow. My ego.
Christine Schiefer: You're so powerful!
Em Schulz: I'm divine. Umm, that's terrifying. And I wonder, my immediate thought, which I'm sure is not realistic, my immediate thought is that like your husband, like heard and like pressed like a, like the, like the...
Christine Schiefer: The emergency shut off.
Em Schulz: The panic button and was like, "Shut it down. Shut it down."
Christine Schiefer: My guess is that whoever he works for has ears in all the employees' places, you know what I mean?
Em Schulz: Yeah. But you would think if it was something I was saying that freaked someone in the government out, they would have already reached out to us and been like, "That episode has to come down."
Christine Schiefer: But Maybe it's not that advanced. Like they know where it's from. Maybe they're just recording the audio on the phone and then they hear, oh, that aeronautical whatever, protection and alien or something. And it's just like, all right, code red. I don't know.
Em Schulz: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Christine Schiefer: I don't know. Umm, so it says, "Even my Apple watch that was on my wrist had turned off." I don't think I've ever turned off my Apple Watch.
Em Schulz: What?
Christine Schiefer: Like, I don't think I even know how to turn off my Apple watch. That is...
Em Schulz: What?
Christine Schiefer: Bizarre.
Em Schulz: Oh, wow.
Christine Schiefer: This is very freaky. Umm, okay. So she says, "Cue my absolute panic. Everything was dark and silent for about two minutes while I stood completely still only hearing my own panicked breathing in the dark."
Em Schulz: In the dark. Oh God.
Christine Schiefer: Fuck me. This is a horrible, the power...
Em Schulz: I would even, I would even wonder if like the, like if there's an alien that listens to you and was like, Ooh.
Christine Schiefer: And just like, shut down all your equipment. "The power and my phone did come back on, but the Spotify app would not open on my phone as if something or someone was telling me I had heard enough about the AATIP. To this day, I have never gone back to that episode, and I'm not sure I ever will. I'm sure it's an amazing episode." But you can just skip to my crime part. No, I'm just kidding.
Em Schulz: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Christine Schiefer: "I'm sure it's an amazing episode, but maybe while I have a connection to the Space Force, I'll hold off on listening. I've got lots more paranormal stories all the way from a three-headed..." Ooh, I wonder what happens if you listen to this episode.
Em Schulz: Ohh.
Christine Schiefer: Because it has like your, I mean, it doesn't have your name.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: But it has like the words like government, aeronautical, you know, whatever the hell. Umm, maybe, maybe it'll happen again. She's like, no, I don't want that.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: That's a good... That's a good experiment though. Maybe listen to it like somewhere other than your own home or from a different phone.
Christine Schiefer: Great Point. Yeah. Umm, let's see. "I've got lots more paranormal stories all the way from a three-headed dog in my bedroom to a psychic stranger telling me about my future firstborns life expectancy." I don't like that.
Em Schulz: I am curious, but I don't like it.
Christine Schiefer: I don't like it. But tell me all about it.
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Uh, and then wrote, "But that's a story for another time. Love you all!"
Em Schulz: It always is.
Christine Schiefer: Aw, thanks A, umm...
Em Schulz: Thanks A and also, sorry that apparently...
Christine Schiefer: Ooh, that's rough. That's scary, Em.
Em Schulz: I really wish there, I had some explanation or like, maybe it was during like a phone-wide reset or something. I don't know, but that's crazy.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. Can I ask for a story request, like a theme request?
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Can you guys email us in... And I'm sure some of you already have, Umm, stories that have happened while listening to the show. And I don't mean that in like a narcissistic way.
Em Schulz: Ooh!
Christine Schiefer: But just like, I'm so curious about like, whether it's like conspiracy-y, like government-y or like ghost-y, you know, like you're listening...
Em Schulz: Oh yeah.
Christine Schiefer: To PTD episode, Peggy...
Em Schulz: That's a great, that's a great suggestion.
Christine Schiefer: Sorry I said her name. I just, I wanted to say in case somebody forgot, but, umm, yeah, I don't know. Just in case anybody's had something weird happen, I would love to hear about it while they're listening to the show.
Em Schulz: That's great. I have, umm, an aunt and uncle who were in the Navy and they were in some like, high classified something and I guess like it's... I wonder if they've also had the same thing where like maybe there's always a recording going on in their house or something.
Christine Schiefer: Mmm.
Em Schulz: Because I, I do know that like, their... They couldn't say certain things or he couldn't say certain things to his wife. The wife couldn't say certain things to him. So I, umm, I wonder if there was like any actual monitoring about that.
Christine Schiefer: Like some surveillance as part of the job description. Yeah.
Em Schulz: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe my, I...
Christine Schiefer: It must be 'cause otherwise shit would just get leaked so much more often I feel like.
Em Schulz: Yeah. Yeah. Woo. You know what'd be a fun episode?
Christine Schiefer: Mmh.
Em Schulz: Uh, which we can't actually do, I guess we technically could, is if you and I were the anonymous writers and we just wrote our own experiences that we can't talk about on the show...
Christine Schiefer: [gasp].
Em Schulz: And we just... You know what I mean?
Christine Schiefer: Oh.
Em Schulz: And no one would ever know that it was actually us reacting to our own stories.
Christine Schiefer: So what if one day we did that, but we won't say what month it is. And we completely... Like, make up like names and pronouns for all the people.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: And write our own stories down. But we won't say which...
Em Schulz: And then I'd be like, oh, this one's a double pronoun. We love a double pronoun.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, wow.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: What a special listener.
Em Schulz: Okay. Okay let's, uh, this is actually our next one is from a theybie, which I'm excited about, named Joan and Joan's story says, "I Won't Look Out the Window".
Christine Schiefer: Forget it. I mean, I won't either, but I don't even have a good reason to, which I'm sure you do.
Em Schulz: As of today. I'm never looking out a window again. [laughter] So, Umm, "first off, yes, this is a pseudonym because I know people who listen to this and they can't know me."
Christine Schiefer: Ooh, is this your story? Did you already insert your own story into this episode?
Em Schulz: Maybe that's why I just pitched this to like, so no one would suspect that this one's me. [laughter] "So I've grown up with lots of paranormal experiences and one of the biggest things that followed me, literally, was my instinctual fear of looking out the window at night."
Christine Schiefer: Oh no.
Em Schulz: "It started due to an old family story, but came true when I had an experience as a kid. My window faced expansive woods across the road and it was well known. We saw and heard owls and planes from the local airport and military post. But when I started seeing the weird light thing darting through the trees, I knew it was different."
Christine Schiefer: Oh no. Oh no.
Em Schulz: Eugh!
Christine Schiefer: Mm-mm.
Em Schulz: "Note this was in the early 2000s and there were no drones. What was worse was when I turned around and went back to cleaning my room, I got the feeling of being watched."
Christine Schiefer: Oh no.
Em Schulz: "This feeling stayed with me until I went across the house to where we kept my family's rosary and I was out of sight of the woods."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp]
Em Schulz: "Fast forward to last year, I'm happily married and living in the same region, but in town now. So not worried about seeing spooky nature shit just as much, uh, just normal ghosts and shit now. I got up with my partner to make them lunch and noticed one of the streetlights shining brightly through my front door window."
Christine Schiefer: Oh no.
Em Schulz: "At first I thought nothing of it, honestly thought the town had maybe finally replaced the bulbs or something, but noticed the longer I was in the kitchen, the brighter it seemed to get and the heavier feeling I got too. When my partner got ready to leave, I asked if they noticed it and they said the streetlight was as dim as normal and asked if I was okay."
Christine Schiefer: Oh geez.
Em Schulz: "When I looked at them, it was dim. The moment they left though it was back."
Christine Schiefer: Ewww. Okay. So they did see it normally, but then the second, the second pair of eyes wasn't there, it went back.
Em Schulz: Again, it's like, it's intelligent of like knowing that it has to like...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah.
Em Schulz: Hide from other people.
Christine Schiefer: Like trick, trick people.
Em Schulz: "Normally I'd go back to bed or at least meditate, but that morning I had this feeling that I needed to turn off all the lights in my house and stay awake."
Christine Schiefer: What the fuck?
Em Schulz: Ooh. "And that if I fell asleep, something would happen."
Christine Schiefer: [gasp].
Em Schulz: Oh Sorry turned on all the lights and stay awake. I was like, why would you sit in that dark?
Christine Schiefer: Oh Okay, I was like that is very spooky. Okay.
Em Schulz: "I felt the need to turn on all the lights and stay awake and that if I fell asleep something would happen."
Christine Schiefer: Oh no.
Em Schulz: "I don't know. I don't know what, just something bad. I followed my instincts because I have learned they are typically right and it was the weirdest feeling when I sat in bed with every light on feeling like the air was buzzing around me and weighed too heavy to be normal, trying to make me sleep." Ew, trying to make me sleep.
Christine Schiefer: Ew. So trying to make wait, like waiting for you to fall asleep. Ugh. That's horrible.
Em Schulz: "I was almost late to work that morning because I refused to even step foot near my door until it was fully light out and I have not felt it since." At least that...
Christine Schiefer: I mean, yeah, let's hope that stays that way.
Em Schulz: Ooh. Oh my God. That's just so, to know that the, like the air is staticky and like heavy...
Christine Schiefer: Ooh, it gives me shivers.
Em Schulz: And they're almost trying to sedate you to get you to fall asleep and you feel you're being stared at.
Christine Schiefer: Mmm. And like what is it like if you do fall asleep, then what? You know, it's...
Em Schulz: And the light playing tricks...
Christine Schiefer: Like you can't even imagine.
Em Schulz: Oh God, I hate that. Also, they ended it by saying they just tried Cheesecake Factory and they see why we love it so much.
Christine Schiefer: It's fucking good, isn't it? It's fucking good. Yeah.
Em Schulz: It's pretty darn tasty.
Christine Schiefer: Darn good.
Em Schulz: Umm, but wow. Thank you for that. And I can see why you also wanna use a different name 'cause you... Maybe you feel like they can hear you now too. I mean, if they can see you, you know, that's, that's not a, a wild far off...
Christine Schiefer: Fear to have... Yeah, it's not a stretch, I guess. Okay. Well this is a scary episode that Eva planned.
Em Schulz: Yeah, I think. And then also conveniently, Eva had to go 'cause she had plans. So she's not even here to...
Christine Schiefer: Great point.
Em Schulz: She's not even listening on the other side anymore.
Christine Schiefer: She just like peaced out a minute ago, which we probably shouldn't even say out loud 'cause now I feel like whoever's listening is like, uh, okay. Let's roll.
Em Schulz: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now we can say all, all we've ever wanted to about her and she'll never know.
Christine Schiefer: Ahhh! Except when she listens to the episode.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: Oh yeah. She, she did an excellent job of picking scary things and then, "Gotta go bye."
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. Oops. Okay. So this is our last one, I believe. This is from Jellay, She/her. It says, "Hi Em, Christine, Eva and all spooky and citrus friends." Oh. And the subject is, "I grew up at Massey College at U of T." That's...
Em Schulz: Oh wow. So two UT people...
Christine Schiefer: Yeah, wow.
Em Schulz: Or Stories. Huh?
Christine Schiefer: "My name is Jellay and I loved hearing Em talk about U of T in the most recent episode. When I was born, my mom was a junior fellow at Massey College and stayed to do her PhD there. Massey is just as fun and weird as it sounds with some really impressive academics in regular attendances. I've heard Nobel Prize winners, well known authors and even former Bletchley Circle members." What's a Bletchley Circle member?
Em Schulz: We're about to find out, 'cause I got Google right here.
Christine Schiefer: Okay. I got really embarrassed. I was like, even Bletchley Circle?
Em Schulz: Bletch... How do you spell Bletchley?
Christine Schiefer: Bletch. [laughter] B-L-E-T-C-H.
Em Schulz: Okay.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, it's a show.
Em Schulz: The Bletchley Circle. Oh yeah, it is a show.
Christine Schiefer: Oh, it looks good.
Em Schulz: Oh, remember I said a bunch of shows filmed there?
Christine Schiefer: Oh yeah.
Em Schulz: So maybe that's what they're talking about.
Christine Schiefer: It's a show set in 1952. I love a good period piece. Okay, I'm gonna watch this later. "And even former Bletchley Circle members speak at events there. As a kid, the former master's kids would babysit me while my parents went to the events held there." Wait, I just had a thought. What if Bletchley Circle was a thing before the show [laughter] and...
Em Schulz: Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Now we're like, "Oh, it's actors from the TV show," and they're like...
Em Schulz: I think that's what it is, probably.
Christine Schiefer: Oh! Sorry that was so loud. Uh, Susan Gray, Millie, Lucy and Jean worked together at Bletchley Park to decipher German military codes for the British military during World War II.
Em Schulz: Oh. And this is...
Christine Schiefer: Oh wait...
Em Schulz: So that is real?
Christine Schiefer: No it's not.
Em Schulz: Oh.
Christine Schiefer: That's the plot of the TV show. [laughter]
Em Schulz: What a head spin I'm having right now?
Christine Schiefer: I'm so sorry. It said, "This is what Bletchley Circle is," but that's also the TV show?
Em Schulz: Mmh.
Christine Schiefer: But I think it's a real thing. Oh, it is a real thing. War history. I'll go to warhistoryonline.com. World War II's, female Code Breakers in Bletchley Park, okay? So it is a real thing then. I'm sorry.
Em Schulz: Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Christine Schiefer: You just spun us out friend.
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Uh, thanks Jellay.
Em Schulz: We had no reference. We had no understanding.
Christine Schiefer: So sorry we're so ignorant. Umm, it is my fault. "As a kid, the former masters kids would babysit me while my parents went to the events held there, but I was always allowed to go to Gaudy Night every year." Remember Naughty Gaudy Night?
Em Schulz: Who could forget Naughty Gaudy Night?
Christine Schiefer: Who could forget.
Em Schulz: We still have to have a, a Christmas party about it.
Christine Schiefer: We're going to, I can't wait.
Em Schulz: Oh. Maybe we should go... Maybe we should go to Canada come Christmas. Have... Go to the Naughty Gaudy night. I don't know.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah, and talk about Bletchley Circle since we know so much about it.
Em Schulz: We have a lot of time to learn about it though.
Christine Schiefer: It is true. "As a kid, the former masters kids would babysit me while my parents went to events held there, but I was always allowed to go to Gaudy Night every year and still go with mom whenever they offer extra tickets to alum and their guests. Gaudy Night is pretty much as you described it. A festive holiday dinner and ghost story night." I mean it's a dream.
Em Schulz: Come on.
Christine Schiefer: "The former and current masters now their role has been retitled as principal. Still have us all gather around to hear new ghost stories each year. Usually they're pretty silly ones, but some are downright bone chilling. One of my favorites was one about a ghost dog that is seen in the quad every so often and used to be mistaken for the former master's family dog. Yes, I've also heard about sightings of Robertson Davies himself. In the stairwell there's even a bust of him with a very shiny nose, as it said to be good luck to touch the nose as you walk by."
Em Schulz: Aw.
Christine Schiefer: "I took my mom to your last Toronto live show as she's a big paranormal buff and she was hooked!" Wait, that's so nice.
Em Schulz: That's very sweet.
Christine Schiefer: Okay, get ready. "She says that if you're ever in Toronto in December, she'll happily bring you as a guest to Gaudy Night."
Em Schulz: [gasp].
Christine Schiefer: I'm gonna pee my pants.
Em Schulz: Oh my God. We have an in.
Christine Schiefer: I really wanna go, like dead serious.
Em Schulz: We have an in.
Christine Schiefer: How fun would that be?
Em Schulz: We have to go to Gaudy Night.
Christine Schiefer: "Jellay and Tanya." It says at the end here who I'm assuming is your mother, Please. Please. We really wanna go. That's so nice to invite us. I don't know why I got whiny, but...
Em Schulz: Uh. Well, I don't know either, but I am, I understand.
Christine Schiefer: I just like, wow how cool would that be? I just hope they're serious, you know, 'cause I really wanna go.
Em Schulz: I wonder how you dress, like how festive are we? Because it says gaudy, so in my mind I'm dressed in camp, I'm dressed in...
Christine Schiefer: I'm dressed in jewelry.
Em Schulz: Dolly. Yeah.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. What if we show up that way and everyone's just look very professional, we look like idiots.
Em Schulz: Everyone's in tuxedos and we're like...
[laughter]
Christine Schiefer: Okay. "She says that if you're ever in Toronto in December, she'd happily bring you as a guest to Gaudy Night. We'd both happily do a haunted walk tour with you around U of Toronto too. The ghosts there are endless. If you're ever curious about another very haunted university in Canada, you should look into where I went for my first undergrad, the University of Kings College in Halifax."
Em Schulz: Ooh.
Christine Schiefer: Which has a special place in both our hearts Em.
Em Schulz: Sure does.
Christine Schiefer: "Is one of the oldest universities in North America. It's burned down multiple times and even has a ghost cow." Oh dear.
Em Schulz: So instead of boo, it's moo?
Christine Schiefer: Yep, moo [laughter] "Always happy to write in again with more details there, looking forward to hopefully seeing your next Toronto show if one pops up."
Em Schulz: In December.
Christine Schiefer: Wow. We should schedule one for December. "Jellay and Tanya." Wow.
Em Schulz: You know, we should just start like telling our uh, Andrew. We should start telling, uh, our...
Christine Schiefer: Our Andrew.
Em Schulz: Our booking agent. Our Andrew, we should start telling him that for our tour, we just wanna start going to places that other people have mentioned in listener stories that they can get us in on, because...
Christine Schiefer: Just free stuff.
[laughter]
Em Schulz: I would love to have a show at Massey College and then we can just like go to Gaudy Night after we wrap up.
Christine Schiefer: Yeah. That's literally like the most Em and Christine thing ever. Like we just wanna be part of like... So we'll just schedule the work around all the cool, free fun shit we wanna do.
Em Schulz: That's it. Yes, yes, yes. I'm sure he'd be fine with that. So, umm...
Christine Schiefer: I think it's totally normal for us to do that, so.
Em Schulz: For us only, yeah.
Christine Schiefer: For us, and no one else. Yeah.
Em Schulz: I, I feel so bad for everyone that works for us. They just have to roll their eyes at every moment we have an opinion.
Christine Schiefer: They must just have to hold their tongue all the time. Yeah.
Em Schulz: Yeah. Ah, well, thank you everyone who wrote in your stories. If for some reason this is your first time hearing a listener's episode and you wanna submit your own story, you can do it at our website andthatswhywedrink.com and uh... Wow. Just that's a good way to kick off, uh, kick off July.
Christine Schiefer: Yes! And if you, umm have stories about something that happened while listening to the podcast or you know, like something spooky like you were listening to, I don't know, something about UFOs and your phone shut off or whatever, I don't know. I would love to hear more stories like that, 'cause that one was so spooky.
Em Schulz: That's such a good topic. I don't know why we've never thought of that, but I would love to... I also... I would love...
Christine Schiefer: Part of me is like, have we? [laughter] But I don't think so.
Em Schulz: I don't know. Yeah, but if there's an episode where we're somehow involved in a government conspiracy and don't know it, we would love to know. Thank you so much.
Christine Schiefer: Hit us up [laughter]
Em Schulz: Umm and I hope everyone has a great July. We'll see you with more stories in August and I just, uh you know, hope everyone has, is having a good Summer. So.
Christine Schiefer: Yay.
Em Schulz: And.
Christine Schiefer: That's.
Em Schulz: Why.
Christine Schiefer: We.
Em Schulz: Drink.